Reverse Osmosis Filters
Common Questions & Answers
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A few months back, we bought an
RO-9100 R.O. system from Home Depot and installed it. Well, it seems
that you get what you pay for, as after being connected for 2 days one
of the factory-installed joints (between stages) broke loose overnight
and proceeded to pour hundreds of gallons of water into our under-sink
cabinet and consequently into our finished basement, causing over $2,000
in damage.
So I went through each joint, tightened them all, and put the unit back
into service. A month went by, and a different joint failed while we
were at work, again dumping lots of water into our basement. My analysis
of the failed joint indicated that even though the fitting was tightened
down securely, the tube was not held securely and blew out. It seems
as if the joints and fittings are of really poor quality, and will never
be up to the task they're required to do. Can you help ?
Robert Ross
Dear
Robert: Instead of trying to fix every joint and tighten every fitting
yourself, you're probably better off getting a new, better quality system.
Because the problem is not that the fittings were not tightened enough;
the problem is, as you said, that the parts are of very poor quality
(can not seal completely, crack under pressure...). Since the system
has broken twice already, I'd doubt the system's integrity and stability.
If the system is overall poor quality, changing the parts will not solve
the problem -- you're likely to get new leakage, blockage down the road,
lots of hassle & costs. I say use it for as long as you can, if
it breaks again, then do away with it and get a good quality system.
Generally,
we don't recommend buying r.o. systems from mass merchandisers (home
depot, costco) because the systems they carry usually are mass-assembled
and imported. The materials used are often cheaper and the systems not
individually tested for leakage & pressure endurance. They'll work
fine for a couple of years, then problems often surface afterwards.
Good Luck!
Nick
We learned it the painful way that when
it comes to water systems, a good quality system is WELL worth its value!
We have recently bought an economical
R.O. System. After installation, it seems to work fine. But one morning
we woke up to find that our first floor was flooded with water. After
searching, we found that one of the R.O. system's housing has burst
and caused all this.
We called them up they said our water line pressure is too high. But
we checked our pressure it is around 85 psi. It seems to be still in
the operational range. What can we do?
Maria Thompson
Dear
Maria: 80 psi is strong pressure, but it shouldn't have caused the bursting
because a good reverse osmosis housings should be able to withstand
up to 100 psi. The minimum you need to do is to replace the 3 pre-filter
housings (and their caps) with better quality ones, preferrably US made,
NSF approved housings that've gone thru endurance testings. We recommend
"US Filter" brand housings-
known to have the highest pressure endurance, US made & NSF approved.
Nick
I have bought a three stage R.O.. system
from a different company. I live in Arizona, it is very hot in the summer.
It's currently 110% outside. I installed the RO system in the garage.
There is a water softener in front of the RO system. We notice a distinct
Plastic smell and taste in our RO water. Please help with any suggestions
you may have. I examined our system and have found that most parts on
this system are made in Taiwan. Do we need a different type of tubing
or housings? Could the temperature in the Garage have damaged the RO
membrane and/or made the charcoal filters less effective. This system
was installed new in November '98.
Jerry Kopeman
Dear
Jerry: The 3-stage reverse
osmosis system is of an older technology. Their filtering
ability is not as thorough as the new 5-stage systems. The membranes
used on the 3-stage reverse osmosis systems are the CTA type, which
give a contaminant rejection rate of about 80%, while the TFC type membranes
used on 5-stage systems give 90%-98% rejection rate. CTA membranes also
tend to break down when the input water's pH is either too high or too
low. Because there're only 3 stages of filtration, each filter has to
work harder, therefore deplete a lot sooner than filters on a 5-stage
system. So if your tap water's quality is bad & demands heavy filtration,
then the prefilers & membrane on your 3-stage system will need frequent
changing, or they may fail prematurely, causing the weird tastes in
the water that you're experiencing.
The distinct "plastic smell" could also come from the storage
tank's rubber bladder, or from the plastic housings & tubing, since
you mentioned that the parts are made in Taiwan -- most foreign parts
have not been tested for "material extraction" by NSF. These
tests are done to make sure that the system's components do not release
substances into the product water. So yeah, it's possible that the plastic
parts on your RO system is leaching the plastic smell into the water
under high temperature.
My
suggestion: You can do two things. First, add a carbon polishing filter
after the tank, it is usually an inline type of carbon disposable filter,
hooked up after the tank and before the dispensing faucet. This filter
will usually take out any residual odors from the tank. This is equivalent
to converting your three stage system to a four stage. Secondly, you
can replace your tank with a new US made, NSF approved pressurized tank
(Amtrol tanks are the best), this usually helps reduce any strange taste
in from the tank. All these said, I still recommend, if possible, it's
best to replace your current system with a good quality 5-stage R.O.
system that's designed with a TFC type membrane.
This'll cost you up front, but will save you time, money & hassle
in the long run. Filters on a good 5-stage system will last 2 - 3 times
longer, saving you money on frequent replacements. You'll get purer
and better tasting water -- that's worth a lot! From our expererience,
3-stage Taiwan-made systems are quite prone to problems such as leaking,
blockages, tank failure, and housing bursting... the upkeepings could
add up to the cost of a brand new RO system. Good Luck!
Nick
We recently
purchased a house that has an under sink RO system. There are no identifying
marks on the tank or filters - and no users guide. It has two vertical
filters, one labled "Pre-filter" and the other "Pre-Carbon," and one
horizontal something on top. Also a large tank. There is a sticker that
informs that the membrane type is CTA, there is a 10 GPD capacity, and
the serial # is 021189.
Oh - the
filters do say "Made in the USA." I have no idea when the previous owners
last changed the filters and would like to do so now to get on a schedule.
The water from the RO tap tastes slightly different from the regular
tap, so I'm assuming the filter is doing something, but we're still
getting the white discoloration, spots and buildup. Could you advise:
is this system sufficient? What type of filters - membranes? - do I
use? What would be the advantages of having this RO system and also
installing a whole house system? (We get a film in the dishwasher, and
the shower/tap leaves your skin feeling .... hard.)
I would
greatly appreciate any assistance you can offer! Thank you! in advance
for a prompt reply.
Elizabeth Jemison
Hi
Elizabeth: Sounds like you have an old industry standard sized ro system,
rated at 10 GPD. I think your membrane is bad already, because if the
ro membrane is still working, you would get no white buildups (calciums
and dissolved solids etc... which is what the membrane's job is to remove).
The
ro tastes different than tap water does not mean that the ro is working,
in your case it just means maybe the pre-filter carbon is taking out
some smell in the water, or it could mean that all the pre filters are
already so old and unchanged, it is affecting the water taste already!!
So
what you need to do is change the 2 pre filters and the ro membrane
asap. The 10 GPD CTA type membrane is really old, I don't know if you
can still find such a replacement. If not, you can upgrade your membrane
to higher GPD ones, just need to change the flow-restrictor together
to match the membrane size.
This
system is very basic, a 3 stage system means you have to change the
pre-filters very often (6 month vs 1 year with a good 5 stage ro system
), so getting all the filters replaced or getting a new system is your
choice. Also CTA membranes are not as good as the TFC kind, so you would
need to get a TFC kind if you buy the new membrane, but in order to
use a TFC membrane, you would need to make sure the carbon filter is
designed as stage 2 on your system (before the membrane, not after the
membrane)
Whole
house systems are good, works well with the ro for you. But whole house
systems should not be used for drinking water(the water is filtered,
but not clean and safe to the point for drinking nowadays!), the r.o.
is.
Regards,
Nick
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